Gitea: Voting for new logo

Logo by @kolaente https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1312#issue-215120549

Logo by @qdbdbp https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1260#issuecomment-290051119

Just a quick heads-up on both though... Using the Git-logo in our logo is actually not legal: https://git-scm.com/trademark ... And technically neither is using the term "Git" in the name 🙄

So before starting to use this logo, we should send an email to [email protected] asking if it's okey...

But the SF are more or less nice people, they allowed the usage for gitolite, GitLab, but one should ask for the written permission

@strk please comment after that two vote replies. So I deleted your comment.

@agaida Both of those have been Grandfathered, and none of them use the git-logo in their logo (and never have)

Also from Gitolites website: http://gitolite.com/gitolite/index.html#license

Note:
GIT is a trademark of Software Freedom Conservancy and my use of "Gitolite" is under license.

So, I think we will have to rewrite the tea tag to remove the Git reference. Is there any other generic symbol that refer to VCS?

I would wait for the response from SF first.

I think VS Code changed git icon to this one because of license issues

because of license issues

Do you have a source for this? I think it was because they added support for other VCSs, e.g. SVN.

@jhasse No I have no source of this icon :disappointed:

@alexmironof i think he means a proof, not a source file

@jhasse They just improved it. No license issue.

Source: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/18675#issuecomment-289680726

@bkcsoft

https://git-scm.com/trademark

In addition, you may not use any of the Marks as a syllable in a new word or as part of a portmanteau (e.g., "Gitalicious", "Gitpedia") used as a mark for a third-party product or service without Conservancy's written permission. For the avoidance of doubt, this provision applies even to third-party marks that use the Marks as a syllable or as part of a portmanteau to refer to a product or service's use of Git code.

So, we need a new name?

So, we need a new name?

Or Conservancy's written permission.

@jhasse @geek1011 @kolaente Just to clarify, I'm _not_ saying we should change the name. I'm just saying that we should _not_ put the git-logo in our logo, since that would just put us _more_ in violation with their trademark.

And the "punchline" Git with a cup of tea can still live on, even if the name might change in the future 😉

Like for many things, the name is an important aspect of an application. A name definitely can influence its development and future, in some ways, practical or more subtle.

"Gitea" is a nice name, still it seems to me it does not reflect the broader and deeper aspect of what it offers.

In my humble opinion, "Gitea" is cute and entertains of course an echo of culinary culture, perhaps also hinting to its possible social nature, but it does not fully convey its potential.

I am afraid an application of a much broader nature and so promising like this is would be negatively affected by a wrong name.

Unfortunately, to some cultures, even the name gogs might have been not a good choice.

This project would deserver a name deeply connected with its nature, with a short and nice sound (although two syllables do help form a rhythm), and it should have a unique feeling, charged with newness and enthusiasm , like its vision and its community.

Please consider changing the name of gitea. This is the right time, the beginning of a new phase, when the application is allowed to unfold more of its potential. Or, at least allow for more choices to come in, so that a freer deliberation could be made by the maintainers.

In any case, thank you so much for this wonderful app. It is truly a first-class app.

Another way would be to just take a branch of tea leafs, but I have no idea how to make that into a nice flat icon ;D

@priyadarshan even now, changing the name will require a lot of work, since that would mean a lot of code changes, a new domain, moving this repo, and so on.

A name is such a vital aspect to an application, that perhaps should be seen as a long term investment, worth the extra work. Of course, the more the wait, the more work it would require. Still, it should not be taken lightly, or hurriedly.

As per the domain name change, I pledge to donate $100 to support an eventual domain change, just let me know, in due time, where to donate.

I am just a very new, grateful user of gitea. I will be happy with whatever decision the maintainers will support.

I forgot the hardest part: Coming up with a good name. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thank you for the chance. A possibility:
tigriver tig is a name for tag, and also git spelled backward. River implies the visual image of flowing together of all branches. It is a three-syllable, but seems pleasant to hear.

As far as I know, it does not seem to be used by a commercial company.

Edit: Other possibilities:

• GitRiver
• PanGit (pan meaning "all-inclusive")
• GitGo

GitGo being my favourite.

FWIW: I like the current name of the project.

I propose to write an official inquiry to [email protected]
This will solve our doubts.
As for the name "Gitea" is very cool and eloquent - you can quickly remember.

@priyadarshan Git in reverse?? Poor concept.

Sorry you did not like the first attempt. What do you think about the others?

It seems to me my initial comment is still pertinent.

Perhaps others would like to put more ideas on the table.

Edit: After searching, it seems the name tig is already been used to denote a git tool: Tig: text-mode interface for Git

@qdbdbp How about Gitter? It contains git in its name, but I think they have no problems with licensing

@alexmironof I don't think that having git in the name is necessarily a problem, there also is GIThub, GITlab, GITolite, GITbucket, and probably a lot more. They however don't use the git logo in theirs, which might be more of a problem.

I like both proposed logos so far. And those fresh color schemes! Here's another one to throw into the mix. Note the addition of the comma, too. :bowtie:

@whilei I liked it. Very clean.

@whilei wow, i love it. Awesome work.

Thanks for the positive feedback. Here's another look at it.

Update: theoretical discussion (@jcgruenhage):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G
and alternatively something like below would more g-ish...?

I can't see what the last logo should be, but I kinda like it.

@whilei Very cool and nice concept.
I like the first one - it is better to name it.

If the name does present a problem (which I agree is unlikely), or the project does not want to be tied only to Git, there is a lot of tea-related terminology to use as a name: camellia, kukicha, darjeeling, gaiwan, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea for more.

I think we could keep gitea for name but

camellia, kukicha, darjeeling, gaiwan,

could be good names for releases

There any summary of the vote?

@qdbdbp (as of this writing) your logo won. Only problem is that is integrates the Git-logo which is in violation of the Git Trademark. Mind making one that does not use said logo?
was sugggested earlier as a close enough substitute 🙂

So let's move this to v1.3

As for 3

Just a quick heads-up on both though... Using the Git-logo in our logo is actually not legal: https://git-scm.com/trademark ... And technically neither is using the term "Git" in the name :roll_eyes:

So before starting to use this logo, we should send an email to [email protected] asking if it's okey...

Any news here?

For such legal questions, the FSFE is offering some help for free software projects like this. The lawyers answering your request will also be able to give an estimation on whether you're safe with the trademark issue.

Write to: [email protected]

More info: https://fsfe.org/activities/ftf/licence-questions.en.html

@qdbdbp could you give SVG files for logo?

As @bkcsoft raised concern about git logo copyright I would propose this with same concept and colors as logo that won just without using git logo

Why did you do this instead of writing to [email protected]?

@jhasse I have created svg files for proposed one and this one, to me both ar fine :) So I will just let @go-gitea/owners to decide ;)

I see :)

Btw: The 32px version in the new one is nice!

I like it more than the old one, mostly because the angle looks more natural, and the corners are nicer.

As requested by @lunny here are some other options for small icon:

1) - :+1:

2) - :smile:

3) - :tada:

4) - :heart:

Vote by respective reactions (vote with :-1: for same as large icon)

I love the @whilei 's second design: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1516#issuecomment-296441534, it's very smooth, looks special, and it also looks good in small icon. Why not include that into the vote?

@twang2218 because @whilei 's designs are posted many days after the previous two. Except we begin a new vote, that's unfair.

fine, but it looks real nice.

I'm a huge fan of the git tea that's sprouting from the tea seed. Not so much the letter g, but that next one is pretty slick. :)

Ya, @whilei designs are really badass!

I don't mean to butt-in or cause confusion, but thought I would add a separate poll in case it may be helpful. My designs were posted 4 and 5 days (respectively) after the initial logo proposals.

| logo | name |
| --- | --- |
| | g |
| | cup |
| | sprout |

@whilei but still your designs got less votes than @qdbdbp so it was decided to use it and just modify not to have copyright issues with git logo.

logo_gitea.svg.zip

In my opinion, I lost the original idea of the logo that I designed.
Now the proposal @whilei seems to me more interesting, more modern.
Maybe as we work on the original colors of "Gitea" we will work out some good logotyp.

@qdbdbp @whilei design is nice but somehow I don't like shades in background

Which is the new logo? When we will have a decision? I think posting more logos will not make it easier to determine which logo is "the best".

see #2194

@lunny I think @whilei logos looks more modern and more professionally designed than @qdbdbp and why community doesnt choose them?

The answer is simple - 2 days delay. People opened this issue and choosed from two logos first, voted and then never opened this issue again.

I think good idea to start voting from scratch and post all logos at once so everybody have some more options to choose from

Before this issue, there were others with lots of ideas (#1121, #1260, #1312). To open yet another one will just result in bike-shedding.

3 issues with 6 logos, nice :rofl: Why not to gather them all in one place? And this is proof that in #1516 people just vote for 2 well known logos.

Also @qdbdbp mentioned @whilei logo is more modern and interesting.
P.S. Look carefully at Gogs logo - it is also well designed.
I dont want to hurt somebody feelings, but current logo seem like "Hello from 90's"

Also if you subtract downvotes from upvotes - the winner is @kolaente

At some point you'll have to settle on a logo.

And this is proof that in #1516 people just vote for 2 well known logos.

Yes, because those were the two most popular suggestions at the time.

Also if you subtract downvotes from upvotes - the winner is @kolaente

Voting is over, the current state isn't representative anymore (for example people who dislike the logo on try.gitea.io might come here and downvote it).

Voting is over, the current state isn't representative anymore (for example people who dislike the logo on try.gitea.io might come here and downvote it).

The state of downvotes was correct at the time when pull request arrived, it doesn't changed so much through time.

Millions of lemmings can't be wrong!

If you think rationally not only community votes makes good choice

Also only clear thinking mades my decision to move from gogs to gitea, because it seems unmaintained, but community choose gogs(it has about 20k stars)

The state of downvotes was correct at the time when pull request arrived

I didn't know that. I guess if down-votes were to be substracted from the voting, that should have been made clear in the beginning. Without explicit mentioning I wouldn't expect it.

If you think rationally not only community votes makes good choice

Yes, so?

but community choose gogs(it has about 20k stars)

Gogs was around a lot longer that's why it has more stars.

GOGS is a older project - compared to him, the new project is stupidity.
Do you think people will not go to Gitea because there is a "different" logo than Gogs?

Gogs was around a lot longer that's why it has more stars.

It has more start because of nice logo :wink:

It has more start because of nice logo :wink:

No, it didn't even have the current logo from the beginning.

Yes, previous logo seems more popular :smile:
http://www.timqian.com/star-history/#go-gitea/gitea

Why do you think that? I don't see any decline of the gradient since July.

From start up it has a huge gain.

So I think we should stop flooding about personal decisions. My decision is good looking, professianally designed and modern logo

@alexmironof The decision was made to use the logo with the most votes. If you think it's so bad that there needs to be a new vote, open a new issue with objective arguments against the current logo. If enough people agree with you, a new vote could be proposed, but I don't see it happening.
People chose for the current logo, and if anything is bad for brand identity, it's changing logos every few months.

@lesderid If anythings is bad for brand identity it is only a bad brand identity position.
Like choosing not the best logo available or bad contribution model

Isn't it very simple to override the logo in custom/ ? Please focus your effort on getting a new release out instead of logo bikeshedding.

Please suggest some modern logo that you think is correct.
At this time it's just trolling.
We focus on important things - the logo theme was already considered.

If you have a problem with this, maybe it's better to be with Gogs because it has a better logo.

I think Gitea is already bright years ahead of Gogs with an "ugly" logo ...

Ive suggested it before

The vote is over and a logo have been taken and integrated.